'Constitutional Recognition' Questions and Answers

If you believe 'Recognition' is a great way to support First Nations people, be aware that when you pull the layers off this government proposal called 'Constitution Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander People', there is absolutely no evidence of any advantages to the First People and plenty of disadvantages.


Constitutional Recognition Questions and Answers

Was Constitutional Recognition an initiative of First Nations peoples?

  • No. We never heard any First Nations person or group call for Constitutional Recognition before there was a government funded campaign.
  • There has never been a rally saying 'We want Constitutional Reform' before the government funded meetings

Where did the idea of Constitutional Recognition for First Nations peoples come from?

  • In 1965 Prime Minister Robert Menzies noted in parliament that Aboriginal people are not Australian citizens and the government cannot legally control them. See the Hansard record of 1 April 1965.
  • The Mabo v Queensland (No 2) High Court finding held that the doctrine of terra nullius, which imported all laws of England to a new land, did not apply in circumstances where there were already inhabitants present, therefore, Aboriginal people maintain there sovereignty.
  • In 2007, Prime Minister John Howard, announced that if he was re-elected, he will put a referendum to the Australian people to formally recognise Indigenous Australians in the Constitution. ABC Report 11 October 2007
  • John Howard's statement was made during the same period of government when he was changing Land Rights into Native Title, a much weaker land holding, opposing the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, opposing a Treaty and following the introduction of the Northern Territory Intervention and the shutting down of ATSIC.

Why is the government pushing for Constitutional Reform?

  • The government can say that because the First Nations people voted for the changes in the referendum they have specifically voted to be controlled by the government.
  • The government wants more control over First Nations people, especially those living on 'valuable mining land'
  • The government wants to extend its power to further dislocate and marginalise First Nations people who have not already assimilated
  • The invaders of these lands and the following governments have been aggressively trying to 'breed out' and/or assimilate First Nations people since the invasion in 1788, when they released there were more Aboriginal people on the continent than they first thought and they were people with established societies. They have needed to eradicate the people to justify their terra nullius claim (unoccupied and free to colonise).

But how can they get away with it?

  • They have spent many millions dollars on the 'Recognise' campaign through advertising and other promotions, from the popular sports through to the arts. They have employed well known assimilated Aboriginal 'Leaders' to actively promote their campaign and have added a further $15m in the 2016 Budget to press the 'Yes' vote in communities around the continent.
  • With over $100m already spent (Many estimate $800m) on the 'Yes' vote they have never allocated any money on people or organisations to put up a case for the 'No' vote or to explain the pitfalls.
  • The commercial channels (Fox, 7, 9, 10 groups of channels) are all funded and operated by big business interests and collect advertising revenue from 'R' Campaign, and are also regulated by the government
  • The ABC and SBS (NITV) is funded and being bullied by the government
  • Former PM Tony Abbott inferred that all Aboriginal government funded organisations must support 'Recognise' or their funding may be compromised. (blackmail)
  • There has been a media blackout on all mainstream media outlets to describe what rights Aboriginal people will get from Constitution Recognition or the disadvantages - this goes against the 'democratic' assumption of the Australian government system.

Who is the 'Expert Panel' on Constitutional 'Reform' who advise the government?

New Referendum Council

On 7th December, 2015 the government appointed a new council to promote Constitutional Reform to work independently to the 'Expert Council' , including some of the front line people from the 'Expert Panel', which was named 'The Referendum Council'. This council includes more non-Indigenous people than the 'Expert Panel'. The non-Indigenous members are leading right-wing Lawyers and media experts..

The Referendum Council members list: Professor Patrick Dodson (co-chair) Resigned), Mark Leibler AC (co-chair), Stan Grant, Pat Anderson AO, Professor Megan Davis, Andrew Demetriou, Murray Gleeson AC QC, Kristina Keneally, Mick Gooda, Tanya Hosch, Jane McAloon, Michael Rose, Natasha Stott Despoja AM, Noel Pearson, Amanda Vanstone, Dalassa Yorkston, Dr Galarrwuy Yunupingu AM. Please note: None of these people were voted for or appointed as spokespersons by the Aboriginal community. Referendum Council members images

Non-Indigenous members of the Referendum Council:
Non-Indigenous people on the Referendum Council out-number Aboriginal people.

Andrew Demetriou: Businessman and former CEO of 'AFL' and also former CEO of Acquire Learning' where there were allegations of deceptive selling practices. He has business interests in Brazil and India
Jane McAloon: Company secretary of BHP Billiton mining Group.
Amanda Vanstone: Former Liberal Party Senator and held several ministerial portfolios under the Howard Government. Her time as Minister of Immigration was marked with controversies.
Kristina Keneally: Former Premier of New South Wales (Labor). She was the Premier when the government began the privatisation of the state's electricity assets.
Natasha Stott Despoja: Former leader of the Australian Democrats. She is married to a Liberal Party lobbyist and an unashamed 'Tory' (The British Conservative Party).
Murray Gleeson: A Lawyer who later became the Chief Justice of the High Court of Australia and was residing in that position when John Howard suspended the Racial Discrimination Act. He graduated with former PM John Howard, the architect behind 'Recognition'.
Mark Leibler (Co-Chair of the Referendum Council): A Tax Lawyer who is now a Senior Partner in 'Arnold Bloch Leibler' a company that works with big business to minimise taxes. He is an active supporter of the illegal occupation of The West Bank in Palestine and one of Australia's most prominent members of the Australian Zionist lobby.
Mark Rose: A partner and CEO of 'Allens Arthur Robinson' one of Australia's biggest Law firms, a member of the Business Council of Australia and a Fellow of the Australian Institute of Company Directors.

Read More:

See: An overview by Ghillar Michael Anderson and Referendum Council Announcement - PM Media Release

Why should I oppose it?

  • Because the government wants to name First Nations people in the constitution so they have more power over them.
  • It will allow the government to discriminate on the basis of race.
  • It fails the test of compliance with the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples:
  • It gives the government the power to pass legislation like the 'Northern Territory Intervention' against the First Nations people in all the states
  • 'Sovereignty was never ceded' - this legislation will make it much harder for people to assert their sovereign rights - in other words. it will kill any chance of workable and grass roots self-determination
  • The vote will give non-Indigenous people the power to make the decision on 'Recognition' (This is because they have 97% of the vote)
  • Follow links for some of the many other issues for First Nations people (below).
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10 Reasons to Vote NO on Constitutional Recognition
10 Reason’s to Vote No for Constitutional Recognition - 1) It wipes out Sovereignty and Land Rights - 2) Overrides Native Title - 3) Doesn’t give rights - 4) Turns Blackfella’s into ‘Property’ of the ‘Crown’ - 5) Does not give Blackfella’s any power - 6) Doesn’t protect Cultural Rights - 7) Does not recognise Cultural Ownership - 8) Does not protect Cultural Law / Lore - 9) Offers a restricted citizenship - 10) Allows the Government to make Laws for Blackfella’s as a targeted race without limitations

Do First Nations people want 'Constitution Recognition?

Do non-Indigenous people want it?

  • Yes, because they think its what First Nations people want
  • They have been tricked by the multi-million dollar advertising campaign.
  • There is a media ban on 'Sovereignty' and any article that questions 'R' Constitutional Recognition
  • Aboriginal organisations have been bullied by the Government to support the 'Recognition' campaign ... or else.

Why do famous Sports and Music stars support recognition?

  • These well-meaning stars are great at what they do in their professional capacity and know how to stand up for human rights, such as racism, which they understand. However, they don't appear to know very much about politics, and seem to have been spun a story by well known assimilationists within the very well funded 'Recognise' campaign machine.

What is the advantage of 'Recognition' then?

  • It beats us, We can't think of one single advantage to First Nations people if a 'YES' vote in the referendum is successful. To have the words 'Indigenous people' included in the preamble of an extremely racist constitution will be of no value to the future or well being of the First Nations peoples whatsoever. Other planned wording additions and changes have not yet been decided, so in effect people are agreeing to vote on something they don't know anything about.
  • It's just another very expensive government trick so they can further control First Nations peoples lives and land, carefully planned so that everybody believes it will help them.
  • With all the millions the government spends on Constitutional 'Reform' there hasn't been one disadvantage on 'Recognition' ever mentioned and they never fly the Aboriginal flag at 'R' rallies and meetings. See Example or do a google search.

Did the 1967 Referendum give First Nations peoples the vote?

In 1967 with good-will Australian Citizens thought they were voting 'Yes' for 'Aborigines' for the right to vote, but Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people already had the right to vote after Legislative changes in 1962.

  • "The 1967 referendum did not give Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples the right to vote. This right had been legislated for Commonwealth elections in 1962, with the last State to provide Indigenous enfranchisement being Queensland in 1965." - (The 1967 referendum – Fact sheet 150 : National Archives of Australia)

What was the 1967 Referendum really about?

  1. Inclusion of 'Aborigines' in the Census
  2. Commonwealth Government could make independent laws for Aboriginal People i.e. The Northern Territory Intervention

What impact has the 1967 Referendum had on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders in Australia?

The Impact has been lethal for First Nations and People's rights. The Northern Territory Intervention was supposedly put in place to prevent child abuse yet youth suicide has doubled since its enforcement. Pedophile rings remain rampant in Northern Territory headed by Non Indigenous people but there was not one found in the remote communities. Mining Royalties in the Northern Territory have been seized by the government and their social security payments divied out as a 'basics card' (Race card with spending regulations on places of purchase and goods), amongst other government controls that do not meet UN human rights protocols.

  • The Northern Territory Intervention is already moving around the country to various areas, but it will be much easier for the government to lawfully put them and other race based regulations into place in all the States after the people have agreed to be governed in the proposed referendum.

How about our culture?

  • The destruction of First Nations and People's cultural integrity is what the government is specifically aiming at. No matter what they say, the governments (Liberal and Labor) continually legislate against our peoples cultural connections and integrity.
  • You must realise that the people on the New Constitution Council and the previous constitutional reform 'Expert Panel' rarely talk about culture, they spent a lot more time talking about issues associated with assimilation. These high profile self-acclaimed 'leaders' spend most of the time talking about mining and jobs from mining. At least one of them has had a history of being funded by mining interests.
  • Many of the New Constitution Council members who promote constitutional changes are on the government's payroll, either indirectly or directly. This is NOT a grass-roots movement from First Nations people.
  • The government has demonstrated that they have no interest in culture and the importance of living on 'country'. The past PM Tony Abbott who was pushing for a vote as soon as possible, thinks that practicing culture and living on 'country' is just a lifestyle choice.
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Sovereign Union Summary

  • The Australian Public were deceived in the 1967 Referendum and are being deceived again on the coming Referendum. A 'Yes' vote will surrender Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander legal 'Sovereign' Stance as first Nations and amalgamate on to Australian Government 'Colonial' Sovereign Stance which has still never proven its Legal Jurisdiction.
  • Constitutional Reform will give the government more power to rule over First Nations people and will kill off any chance of self-determination in the future.
  • First Nations people will lose the chance of a 'Sovereign Treaty' for this generation and future generations.
  • The Australian Government will be given the go-ahead to continue enforcing Laws that Breach International Human Rights, which allows specific laws for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples across all of the States.
  • Use the links at the top of this page for further research

This was collated by SU Facebook administrators following requests for more information - last updated 2017

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